Monday, August 24, 2009

The Curse of the Mysore Royal family: a Rational Analysis

Talakadu Maralaagali
Malangi Maduvaagali
Mysuru Dhoregalige Makkalagade hogali!

These prophetic and terrible words, uttered by a distressed woman in 1610 AD, will complete 400 years next year, in 2010. The “curse of the Wodeyars” also known as the “curse of Talakad” as well as “curse of Malangi” is said to have played havoc on the town of Talakad, village of Malangi and the lives of generations of Wodeyars. But does the curse really exist? There are many people who believe it does and there are many proofs of this. But living in 21st century, can we believe something which has no rational and scientific basis? Should we not use rationality and scientific mind to challenge long held assumptions based on a 400 year old tale.

Based on some interesting books and articles written by historians, archaeologists, geologists and genealogists, I have attempted to find the REAL truth behind the story of this curse. First we look at the story of the curse, its effects and loopholes in the story, followed by a detailed scientific and historic analysis, the findings of which shall surprise you.

Raja Wodeyar, the Wodeyar ruler of Mysore, who was supposed to have been cursed by Rani Alamelamma in 1610 AD.


The story of the curse:
Raja Wodeyar was the founder of the royal Wodeyar dynasty of Mysore. The Vijayanagara empire was in its full decline and Raja Wodeyar was one of its chieftains aiming and jostling for power. In those days, the Vijayanagara Viceroy named Tirumala held court at Srirangapatna and Raja Wodeyar was his vassal. Tirumala was getting increasingly wary his powerful feudatory. He hatched a cunning plan to invite all chieftains under his suzerainty for Hindu festival of Dusshera to Srirangapatna and put them to death. Unfortunately for Tirumala, Raja Wodeyar discovered this plot and attacked Srirangapatna and captured it overthrowing Tirumala and establishing his rule. Tirumala fled to a village of Malangi with his wife, Rani Alamelamma. This is where the story of the curse actually begins.


Raja Wodeyar wanted to take revenge against his defeated foe and hence ordered all the Tirumala’s property confiscated. Rani Alemelamma had brought with her all her jewellery which she would lend to the Sriranganathaswamy Temple at Srirangapatna. To reclaim these jewels, Raja Wodeyar sent his soldiers to Malangi. The soldier arrived at Rani Alamelamma’s residence on banks of Talakad. The Rani was taken by surprise. She put all the ornaments she could find in a chest and made a secret exit from the palace. When Raja Wodeyar’s soldiers barged in Rani’s apartments, they saw a dazzling apparition making its way towards the riverside. Sensing that Rani might escape, they pursued her. But by then the Rani had climbed a cliff that overlooked the torrents of Cauvery.

She cried to the troops in loud voice “Go tell your viceroy that in life in vanquished us but not in death. Honour is more important to us than life and he has tried to acquire it.” The with folded hands and closed eyes, she prayed to Lord Venkateshwara and said “O’Lord, if I have been ever sincere to you as a devotee and a faithful wife of my husband, grant me this dying wish that would be a curse for the arrogant Viceroy of Srirangapatna. –

Talakadu Maralaagali
Malangi Maduvaagali
Mysuru Dhoregalige Makkalagade hogali!


I curse Talakad to be submerged under creeping sands
May a cruel whirlpool be a scourge of Malangi
And the kings of Mysore suffer the pangs of Childlessness!


And then, Rani Alamelamma leapt to her death in the torrential waters of Cauvery. When Raja Wodeyar heard of the incident at Malangi, he was overcome by remorse. To repent, he had a bronze idol of Rani Alamelamma made which is worshiped by the Wodeyars on the 9th day of Dusshera every year.

Effects of the Curse:
The chilling effects of this curse can be seen in the following ways:

1. The historic town of Talakad was completely submerged by sand dunes and was abandoned. The sand covered historical temples can be seen to this day.
2. River Cauvery generates fierce whirlpools near the village of Malangi, which has partly been consumed by the river.
3. Every alternate generation of Wodeyars had problems with heirs including the current Maharaja of Mysore, Srikantadatta Wodeyar.

Archaeologists, geologists, genealogists, historians and rationalists all have a different explanations on this curse. While the first two parts of the curse can be explained by natural geological reasons, but how do you explain the lack of heirs among the Wodeyars even today, in 2009, almost 400 years after the family was cursed?

Loopholes in the story of the curse:
As rationalists, we need to investigate the story which has many loopholes. These unexplained answers and facts are as follows:

1. The jewellery of temples is always considered sacred. It is extremely uncommon for anyone to “lend” their jewellery to the temples on Tuesday and Thursdays.
2. Raja Wodeyar wanted the jewellery which belonged to the temples. If Rani Alamelamma was a very devout woman as the story suggests, she would not have refused to hand over the same.
3. Why did Rani Alamelamma curse the village of Malangi? What did the village where she found solace, do anything to her?
4. It is highly unlikely that anyone would curse the city of holy temples. However, people claim that as a result of her curse, the temple city of Talakad was submerged under the sand.
5. The third part of the curse was that Wodeyars would be childless; then why did the curse change its effect over time, so as to skip a generation?

A Rational Analysis of the Curse:
I have analyzed the three prophecies of the curse based on a variety of sources including Mr. Vikram Sampath’s “Splendours of Royal Mysore” as well as several articles in the CURRENT SCIENCE Magazine. The analysis is as follows:

1. Talakadu Maralaagali “I curse Talakad to be submerged under creeping sands”
Let us analyze the first part of the curse, about the historic town of Talakad to be submerged under creeping sands. Now why would a “devout” woman as Rani Alamelamma curse a holy city which had historic temples? What had Talakad ever done to her? Well, there is no answer available. There have been several researches carried out by Geologists to investigate the phenomenon of sand dunes. CURRENT SCIENCE Journal in its December 2007 features one such article.


Images of the historic temples in the town of Talakad covered by sand dunes, a phenomenon attributed to the "The Curse of Wodeyars".

Talakad is a historic site on the banks of river Kaveri. It has a continuous history of human habitation since 10,000 BC and emerged as a flourishing city during the Hoysala period (12th-13th century). This thriving city went into decline after the 16th century, which is attributed to the curse uttered in 1610 AD. However, historical records show that Talakad town went into decline only at the end of the 16th century. If it was cursed, why did it take almost 60-70 years to take into effect? A combination of historians, geologists and archaeologists claim to find an answer to this. During 1336, Madhava Manthri, a minister from the Vijayanagara regime, is said to have built an ‘anecut’ or dam across river Cauvery just above the Talakad area near Hemmige. Such a construction is likely to have dried up the river path, exposing the sand banks accumulated there for millions of years. Talakad receives strong winds from northwest and southwest, which while blowing on the river base, could move the sand particles towards Talakad. Studies have observed that these particles could move at a rate of about 7–10 ft/yr.

A diagram which explains the geological process of deposition of sand in Talakad (Source: CURRENT SCIENCE JOURNAL, Dec 2007

Thus, the sand which we see covering the town of Talakad is a consequence of movement of particles from the river path which was amplified by the sharp turn of the river. Gradually, over a period of a century, the town was slowly abandoned by its residents due to accumulation of sand and not as a result of some curse.

2. Malangi Maduvaagali “May a cruel whirlpool be a scourge of Malangi”
About the second part of the curse, Geologists have actively demonstrated that there is an active but a minor fault running along the path of the Cauvery River. Accordingly, owing to a major geological shift, the river Kaveri shifted its course as all rivers do. Plus, river Kaveri takes a sharp turn at several places including one at Talakad and Malangi. On one bank of the turn is Talakad and on other bank is Malangi. The bank of river which faces Malangi faces the rapidly flowing face of the river which cuts into it. This is the reason why Malangi is being eaten up by river Kaveri. Not as a result of any curse.

3. Mysuru Dhoregalige Makkalagade hogali! “And the kings of Mysore suffer the pangs of Childlessness!”
About the third and the most important part of the curse, the lack of heirs in the Mysore royal family. Most people including myself, believed in the curse only because of this third effect. I would ask “ Yes, the first two may be geological reasons, but how do you explain the every alternate generation of Wodeyars not having heirs.?” To me, this confirmed the existence of curse. That is, till now. Apparently, Rani Alamelamma cursed that Wodeyars shall not have any heirs, but did not say anything about skipping a generation! Did she have powers to change the curse in retrospect?

The answer is no. This part can be explained as part genetics and part coincidence. The funny part is that the very man who was cursed, Raja Wodeyar had several sons! While it is true that many Wodeyar rulers have had lack of heirs, they did have sons from their concubines. So what explains this?


A genealogy of the Mysore royal family (Source: CURRENT SCIENCE JOURNAL, Dec 2007)

In those days, genetic defects due to close intermarriages were not well known. Like most Indian rulers, Wodeyars married within their own “Urs” community. There were only around a dozen “well bred” inter married Urs families from which all the spouses of the Wodeyar family came from. This may have caused what is called “inbreeding depression”. Point to note is that out of the 19 rulers, only 10 rulers had lack of heirs. All adopted rulers had heirs but their second generation did not, caused by “enhanced inbreeding depression”. Thus, as well see, there is a strong medical reason which explains the lack of heirs of the Mysore family.

So what is this curse all about?
As analyzed above, the curse did not take effect immediately. The three syndromes of the curse were already visible during that time and historians believe that the curse was intelligently moulded by someone with a vested interest. But what could this vested interest be? It is interesting to see the timing of the first mention of this curse and similar other curses. While it was a part of local folklore, it makes appearance only in early 1830s and 1840s. What surprised me most was that very similar such curses of childlessness have emerged around the same time from other royal durbars. Suddenly every royal family like Gwalior, Jaipur, Porbander etc appears to be cursed! Why?


Lord Dalhousie, whose infamous “Doctrine of Lapse” forced royal families to concoct stories of curses.

A little investigation throws some light on this. In 1830s and 40s, Lord Dalhousie was the Governor General of India and the notorious “Doctrine of Lapse” was in existence. Mysore had already been taken under British rule for maladministration and there was a real possibility that state would be annexed of the ruler died without heir. I suspect this may have forced the Mysore durbar to concoct the story of the curse, adding what is called in India “Mirch Masala” (spicing it up). This theory is highly plausible many other durbars did the same. The point was to tell the British “Oh! We do want to have heirs, but what can we do? We are cursed”.

Conclusion:
Based on our analysis, there are three conclusions, first is that due to the construction of a check dam, the sand accumulated on banks of Cauvery for millions of years go exposed. The strong winds carried it towards the town of Talakad which eventually forced then inhabitants to abandon it over a course of a century. Second, ecological degradation as well as shifting of the course of the river forced a part of Malangi to be submerged under water. And third, intermarriages between the closely knit Urs community caused “inbreeding depression” resulting in lack of heirs. And then, to prevent the state from being taken over by the British, the Mysore durbar concocted the story of this curse. Despite these very rational reasons, today, almost 400 years after the so called curse was made, most people will still believe that this curse exists. To conclude, I want to ask, is this blind faith in religion and superstition, the real “curse” which affects Indians?

By Akshay Chavan.

62 comments:

  1. It is notable that the conditions of the curse, barring the exception noted above, has survived from the year 1610 until today, for almost 400 years spanning 17 Maharajas.

    A recent research, which was conducted by the National Institute of Advanced Studies (NIAS) in collaboration with the state archaeology department, Karnataka, found a well-developed canal system extending a few kilo metres from Talakad to Cauvery. They analyzed the site through geospatial maps recorded by a satellite using infrared and radar technology. A GPS survey was also done on the site for more accuracy. By analyzing the data and comparing it with historical evidence, they feel the findings support the 400-year-old curse theory

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  2. A delightful breakthrough in historical analysis. Agree completely. Lookout for this writer....... will be someone to reckon with in future.

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  3. Interesting analysis...history has so many facets & many mysteries unsolved. Are there any other mysteries regarding the Mysore Royal Family?

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  4. The rationale of the analysis is correct. Historically too, the curse is more a creation of the times of Raja Wadiyar to suit the conditions then. Beofre the construction of Madhava Mantri dam, Talakad was a town without menace of sand and sand-dunes. If the threat of sand was three, the Hoysalas would not have constructed temples at Talakad and would not have become one of the oldest places with stone-age remains.

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  5. how can u explain the idol of Rani Alevelamma being worshipped since the time of the curse?

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    1. Naturally to give grist to their hoodwinking to the British that Alamelamma's curse does exist and the Royals worship the 'devi' in awe and respect to get out of the loop. So myth can sustain.

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  6. we are Indians, and worshiping of idol is in our blood :), so there is no wonder - if the story is created for a reason then idol will come with it as proof.

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  7. This is an interesting read. Though i must point out, the picture above is of Mummadi Krishnaraja Wodeyar and also that Raja Wodeyar was not the founder, it was Yaduraya way back in the 14th century.

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  8. The first two parts of the curse do make sense. But the third part is a little more complex. You do realise that most of the adopted kings were adopted from within the family. So it would still lead to inbreeding depression. It huge co incidence(if we do accept inbreeding depression as the cause) that only true heirs are affected and none of the adopted sons are.

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  9. people are mad for there own assumptions it could be a curse or not a curse but the final assumptions made by the writer on the royal family doesnt look to cook

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  10. To start with this particular article have no scientific basis and there is no concrete evidence for the same.
    There are thousands of rivers in world is all cities near river in sand dunes ... if river changes course every year. when u write a article like this u need to have two things in mind geography and history which unfortunately u lack ...
    coming in-breeding and out breeding jokes ..how abt moguls who married their own cousins and how abt Egyptians who would marry their own brothers come on guy u need to grow up before u explain stuff ..

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  11. gibberish by who ...?
    u will remain as unknown for rest ur life ... is this a curse .... hahaha

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  12. All the points you have covered is right but you have to notice some things and still study the subject before you start explain or write abt something, one point i noticed is Rajawodeyar who was cursed by alamelamma was not in the cursed area but it is wrong indirectly it had affected him because the logic thing is while the time of curse of alamelamma, Rajawodeyar already had sons born and was quite older, the succecor chamaraja wodeyar VI had no hiers he was later succede by rajawodeyar's grand son Rajawodeyar II.
    so plz go through these smaller things which are many in the pages of history so that you can give better conclusions

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  13. Firstly the founder of odeyar dynsty was two brothers named Yaduraya and Krishnaraya,but Yaduraya was first king.

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  14. I also found that even if they had children, the eldest to adorn the PATTAM either died or was lost so that the next child or an adopted one will come to throne.

    The Woedyars had concubines through whom many children were born but they were deprived of the title and the rights of a 'Heir'.

    I went to palace at night and wondered how they all lived in that booth bunglow. Absolutely no human can live there in haunted place. I personally did not feel any peace of mind or good vibration inside.

    Also I came to know in the internet that a famous political personality in Tamilnadu who is an exact copy of the late Maharajah in skin color/ physique, is the sister of the present Scion of Mysore, though she cannot officially claim. This news was very new to me.

    Of course, she also rules now. Hope many would have understood who the lady is.

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  15. Hi, Yestraday I visited talakadu and the person who was guiding the place was also telling about the curse. I was very surprised to hear this as even today people believe in curse. When I started searching about it in internet I found even wiki had mentioned about this curse and no scientific explanation. Your article is very good and I cant wait to share this truth with my friends who believe the curse is true:)

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  16. Dear who so ever

    Alamellamma was a very pious lady first point.She posessed Extereme powers no doubt in it.Till today her soul wonders near by to all places of talkad.She has helped me in all worst conditions which i myself know when i was deeply involved in much of temple activities.we do not know what might would have really gone wrong 400 years back..my recommndation to you... just pray to her do not go in any depth of Divine things.

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  17. The curse is a fiction of somebody's imagination. It was probably written in some literary text which became famous over the years. I have been wondering about this curse for a very long time now, and it is scientifically possible for all those events to occur, yet, it is baffling to see how easily people believe in such legends.

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  18. If curse had been concocted by the royal family to fool the British why should the same royal family still pray alamelamma even to this date?

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  19. Also to add, In 1700s i guess , some Wodeyar King (not sure about the name) had married 183 Women. Astonishingly no male heir with all the women.

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  21. Good information and Nice Analysis. Thanks for writing this article/blog on the Talakadu topic.
    I always wanted to know more about the curse and its impact. People can view it from Scientific angle or from curse/religious angle.
    But there needs to be more information on third part of curse.
    We need to get more proof of "inbreeding" or marriage between close families that supposed to be reason for "no heirs" situation of Mysore Kings. Did they not get any kids or just only boys? Is there any historical / written proof of in breeding?
    But 10 kings out of 19 having lack of heirs is a big number and it is not easy to believe that the people at those times did not know the effect of inbreeding
    Anyways thank you for the posting. Appreciate your research into the subject.

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  23. Hare, you guys know what the Real curse is...?
    The In-ability of Indians all over the globe to think for themselves.
    Indians' entire existence today relies Solely on definitions and 'science' as defined by gohras.
    Tell me, don't you have 'idols' of your own, animate, inanimate or even ideas, which you worship in your own ways - Everyday ?
    Has the writer cared to analyse why such an event(The Curse) could have taken place, - without leaning on so-called modern science, which, by the way, is hardly a coupla hundread years old, i.e.: terribly inadequate ?
    Why not?

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  24. Wonderful write up. Ignorance is the worst curse that mankind can have.

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  25. why alamelamma ran to malangi from srirangapatna

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  26. hi..thanks for the post.Are you planning any holiday trip with family.i will suggest you the places br hills resort and also near by place k gudi resort..its a nice place to enjoy with family..do visit..

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  27. Ther's one more story of Alemalamma's idol being thrown away, the Mysore Palce, then of wood, getting burnt and all.. I dunno the exact timeline and the full story. If u know, please pass it on.

    Meanwhile, Avery good right up.. I agree with you on the curse giving scientific reasons, but I also believe that curse must have been true. Also, The reason why she cursed saying Talakadu Maralaagali, was The ones who were chasing her were on Horse, and to prevent them from attacking her, she said that, so that horses won't be able to run on the sand. This is what I have been told. Though I don't agree with you on many points, I must say, what you have done is a commendable job. The analysis in depth, is well put. Good.

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  28. hai my name is girish from bangalore i read your blog & its real in hindu culture the words which come from our inner soul it realy works till now due to the vibarations i Appreciate your research

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  29. Your analysis might be correct,But I have heard about the check Dam construction was major problem for Talakadu.Atleast now people can take it as an case study before taking up any unwanted irrigation project.
    The kings didnt have heirs due to there lot of issues releated to there health.Might be the story to fool East india Company worked :)

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  30. Hi your work is really appreciable, But third case u have commented i felt its not, Because the person who is adopted is also from the same family if it is the medicated issue there should be inhabitant and more over they are from royal family they can take better treatment for that and get heirs in modern era , why it is not working? And i have heard that Queen Alamelamma dies falling into river cauvery after her death the whirlpool starts.

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  31. Why she was singing rhymes before she died and who was there with her to note this line of curse. All are just story and dramatized to suite the situation.

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  32. the shifting of sand, turning of river, and lack of heir took place after the curse, and not before it.. Does Geologists, archeologists and Scientist have an answer?

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    1. Maybe if you read the article properly you would know that it was bcause of the dam!!

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  33. very interesting. thanks for the info

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  34. Firstly you got a lot of stuff wrong... like, as many have pointed, the founder of the dynasty was Yaduraya, and the picture is of Mummadi Krishnaraja Wadiyar. And Alamelamma did not 'lend her jewelry', they were Goddess Ranganayaki's jewelry, which were kept in safety with the Queen, and would be taken out to adorn the Goddess every Tuesday and Friday. And when Raja Wadiyar wanted her to hand over the Jewelry to him, she resisted, and killed herself, while wearing all of them herself. And the part of the Wadiyar curse, NONE, I repeat, NONE of the KIngs "born to the Chief Queen(Pattada Rani)" has EVER had a male issue, only by his other queens and concubines, who were not eligible to be placed on the Throne. Go check the facts yourself, check the entire family tree, adn you'll know this. And that son Raja Wadiyar had, post the Curse episode, also wasn't from the Pattada rani! check your facts before writing such a judgmental post about something significant .

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    1. * I meant NONE of the Kings "born to the Pattada Rani" has had any issues from his own Pattada rani.

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  35. And another IMPORTANT loophole in your 'research' , thw wadiyars always married within the community, NOT ALWAYS! A lot of Kings, both from the older generations to the recent ones, have been married to women of different families. Randheera Kanteerava Narasaraja Wadiyar, I reckon most prominently, and quite a few others, married women from weaker Vassals, for a military alliance with the Maharaja of Mysore. More recently, Nalvadi Krishnaraja Wadiyar's wife was the sister of the Raja of Charakari state, and still, not have any issues; while his father, Chamaraja Wadiyar X married Vanivilasa Sannidhana Ammanavaru, who was an Urs by birth, and still had five children, two male, and three female, which CLEARLY defies your logic!
    P.S Even the first wife (seperated, with no children) of Jayachamaraja Wadiyar, Maharani Satya Prema Kumari, wasn't an Urs!

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    1. P.S a small correction : Nalvadi Krishnaraja Wadiyar's wife Maharani Pratapa Kumari Lashmi Vilasa Sannidhana ammanavaru was from Kathiawar, and not Charakari, the latter being Satya Prema Kumari's place.

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  36. Yo
    i kinda agree with you, but like someone said , why did only the wadeyars have this inbreeding problem, when Egyptians and other kings didnt????

    And also dont you think that its a little too much of it for a coincidence !!
    Anyways i want to believe that everything has a scientific explanation!!
    I TRULY appreciate you ARTICLE!!
    Thank you

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  37. interesting artile:)

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  38. nice thing to know about these facts and its truth ... ya scientifically its proved to be untrue of this curse ..... but in reality only God know whats the truth for as as for me Seeing is Beliving

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  39. Thanks for the very good points made by Sri M.S. Chandrashekar. It appears that the author of the article, Sri Akshay Chavan has not studied all facts properly. It seems that he had already made up his mind that the curse is false propaganda, and tried to prepare a report to suit that belief. More research is needed to unearth the facts.

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  40. any more explanation Mr. Akshnay Chavan...?

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  41. Belief and reason are two different things , they say .....

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  42. Good Hard work on article... but you cannot simply approach with modern scientific investigation

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  43. Yes after reading the complete details on the curse no doubt we have to belive such instance-offcourse we have to accept we face and repent for what we do either good or bad.

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  44. now srikantadatta narasimharaja wadeyar is no more.his adopted son chaduranga kantaraje urs d/o gayatri devi.can any one explain me whether lost glory of yadu vamsha will come back

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  45. definetely the glory of yadhuvamsha cannot come again. .now it is gatha kalada vaibhava.now it is legendry

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  46. Curse has to be real, one cannot get point to point proofs that happened 400 years ago, as there was no printings to record every minute details/points, had only writings/paintings on rocks on a high level.....
    These were true as "Dharma" existed at those ages, where as now "Adharma" exists and everyone's eyes, minds and hearts are masked out (or disguised) against Dharma..... I am from a place near to Mysore and i have heard some of the stories of Mysore's history from my grand parents who learnt from their grand parents.....and i believe them......

    One tip to those who doesn't believe(and to all):
    If one wants something, say it or ask it with a pure heart mind and soul and pure thoughts, and see you will definitely get it, but see that you do it with pure heart pure mind and pure soul pure thoughts with Dharma as the path and you will certainly get it....thats power of Dharma and the truth....and i believe it.

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  47. Nice theory to justify your stand.

    Can you please elaborate on the "Doctrine of Lapse" that is still applicable post-independence and which cause Srikanta Wadiyar to die without a heir ?
    :)

    There are still many things unexplained and beyond human reach. If you dont think so, try going to the Sun :)

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  48. A very nice article and a Good assessment carried out by the writer. It make sense to me, but just one correction in the article - Raja Wodeyar was NOT the founder of the royal Wodeyar dynasty of Mysore.

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  49. You may find natural or other cause but they all started after the curse. Science never brought God or dark energy in its theory but look at recent debate, science is finding “God” particle ?. Technology /advanced knowledge can’t see things on other side of this universe. Curse of innocent and deprived people can be effective. Mysore kings themselves accepted effectiveness of curse on them. Read recent interviews and actions they took to calm down the curse. God is true. There are people who can communicate with psychic abilities on other side of this world. . Reiki energy can heal anything. Hypnosis can change people and even bring back past life memories. None of them are connected with advanced technology OR science. What is important is your belief and connection to highest energy and be open to things in this world and other side of this world.
    - Certified Hypnotist and Reiki Master, USA

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  51. I mean where is Jayalalitha??

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  52. The Curse is True! If someone wanted to spin the doctrine of lapse story or explain just the childlessness then they could have just done with the idol of Alamelamma. What was the need to bring in Talekad or Malangi into the curse. There might have been certain reasons why Talekad and Malangi was strung with the Wodeyar's. Possibly because Alamelamma was compromised in some way by the people of Malangi or the priests on Talekad temples.

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  53. The curse was true. It is not a cooked up story of wodeyar's. Alamelamma's husband Tirumala raja died at Tallakadu. Alamelamma died in the pool of Malangi. Many technologies are around the world, and if Wodeyar's want a baby child, it was easy for them too, being a royal kings. But even then it has not happened. It is also true that at Malangi , the River Kavery is at its deepest and has a whirlpool. Alamelamma was adevotee of lord sriranganatha and the last word of her became true.

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  54. Guys , we can never prove if Alemelamma uttered that curse.
    Million dollar question is if curse came before all the events or after the events.

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